Carey Nieuwhof and Barna SVP of Research Brooke Hempell sit down with Bryan Loritts (author, speaker and teaching pastor at Summit Church) to talk about the experience of black people in America and how church leaders can disciple their people toward racial reconciliation and unity.

David Kinnaman sits down with Jennie Allen, president and founder of IF Gathering and author of ‘Get Out Of Your Head’, to discuss digital discipleship, the relationship between suffering and spiritual formation, and the challenges facing ministry to women, Gen Z and parents. Introduction by Carey Nieuwhof and Savannah Kimberlin.