Alejandro Reyes (CEO of Digital Napkin and Executive Pastor at New Vintage Church) and Haley Veturis (Director of Digital Engagement at Bayside Church) join Carey and David to discuss online engagement, hybrid church, and how to rethink ministry in the digital realm. For research and resources on digital church, online engagement, and hybrid church, subscribe to Barna Access Plus today. Go to barna.com/digitalchurch to find out more.

Jeanne Stevens, co-lead pastor of Soul City Church in Chicago, joins Carey and Savannah to talk about the importance of vision during times of crisis, overcoming personal hardships while leading and how to establish healthy relational boundaries in life and ministry.