Pete Scazzero joins Carey and David to talk about his new book Emotionally Healthy Discipleship, the current state of pastors’ mental and emotional health and why it’s important that pastors foster emotional health in themselves and those they shepherd.

Nona Jones (pastor, author, Facebook executive and founder of Faith and Prejudice) joins Carey and David to talk about the progress made and not made with race in the U.S. one year after the murder of George Floyd. In this insightful interview, Nona shares commentary on recent Barna data on race and diversity, gives practical advice on how church leaders can better shepherd their churches towards awareness and change, and the importance of motive, approach, and prayer when leading in person and online.