Carey sits down with David for the first time in 2021 to talk about the importance of making space to grieve, how to lead through loss and how to support people well as they heal.

Carey and David dive into the unique challenges of church multiplication in a pandemic with Dave Ferguson (Lead Pastor of Community Christian Church in the greater Chicago area and president of Exponential) and Roy Helu Jr. and Glenn Lawson (two church planters at CityLight Bennington in Omaha, NE).

Rich Villodas joins Carey Nieuwhof and Savannah Kimberlin to talk about how pastors can provide better pastoral care for their people while investing in their own spiritual health as leaders. Part 2 of 2.